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Same-sex Marriage’s Unintended Case Against Marriage

Is there a fundamental right to marriage?  That, we’re told, is the basic question behind the same-sex marriage business.

Unfortunately, that question doesn’t go far enough.  Is there a fundamental right to marry whomever one chooses?  That’s the real issue.   And the answer is no.  One can’t, for example, marry someone who can’t consent to marriage—a five-year old, for instance, or an insane person.   Nor can a person marry someone who is already married to someone else, or otherwise marry more than one person at a time.  And, at least in most places right now, a person can’t marry a member of the same sex.

In short, there is a fundamental right to marry, but there are all kinds of provisos and prerequisites having to do with whom one may marry.  The fact that many same-sex marriage proponents continue to speak as if “the fundamental right to marry” has no qualifications betrays their fundamental confusion or disingenuousness on the subject.

Likewise, all the loose talk about how “equal protection of the law” requires legal recognition of same-sex unions in marriage.  In fact, there is presently equal protection of the law when it comes to homosexual persons and marriage.  They are not treated differently when it comes to marrying.  Two heterosexual men can no more legally marry one another than can two homosexual men.  Two lesbians have the same rights to marry men as have heterosexual women.   For both heterosexual and homosexual persons, the law requires that marriage is between one man and one woman.

Of course, if one has a fundamental right to the state’s recognition as marriage of one’s lifelong commitment with another, regardless of the other’s gender, then those who have made such commitments are unjustly discriminated against if they’re unions aren’t recognized as marriage.  But the equal protection argument simply begs the question.  It assumes but does not prove that there is a fundamental right to the state’s recognition as marriage of one’s lifelong commitment with another, regardless of the other’s gender.

Critics have not proved unjust discrimination when it comes to defining marriage as a union of one man and one woman.   But seeing this requires a willingness to see the civil purpose of recognizing marriage in the first place.  That purpose is to privilege civilly those unions that are the kind of unions in which procreation of human beings occurs (i.e., heterosexual unions), even if, in particular cases, as a result of age, defect, or choice, procreation doesn’t in fact occur.  There are civilly-pertinent reasons to encourage couples who regularly engage in the kind of acts that can generate new human beings to enter into the stable, permanent, and exclusive union we call marriage.  Those reasons include creating a stable environment in which children can know and be raised by the man and woman who procreate them.

And in fact, same-sex unions and opposite-sex unions are in fact not equal, contrary to what federal judge Walker, who ruled against California’s Prop 8, supposes.  At least, they are not equal when it comes to procreation of new human beings.  There, opposite-sex couples have a decided advantage.

Nevertheless, Judge Walker thinks unjustly discriminatory the denial of same-sex people’s legal right to have their life choices recognized as marriage by the state.  This is because he thinks that same-sex oriented people have some fundamental human right to enter into a lifelong commitment with people of the same sex and, here is the crucial part, to have the state recognize and compel others to recognize such unions as marriage. But Judge Walker provides no truly rational grounds for showing why “the fundamental right to marry” includes same-sex couples but does not include, say, the union of three or more people.  He gives no sound reason why the state should not be compelled to recognize as marriage “lifelong” friendships.  Indeed, for all intents and purposes, he gives us no reason why the state should be in the marriage-recognition business at all.

Why must civil law and society recognize that two people have decided to commit themselves to one another “for as long as they both shall live” or something less than that if they choose to divorce? Once the law has ceased to have as the underlying purpose of state recognition of marriage the fostering of stability, permanence, and exclusivity in the unions in which couples can engage in procreative kinds of acts, the law has largely, if not entirely, ceased to have a reason to be involved in the marriage business.  Commitments to lifelong unions become, like commitments of friendship, private matters and not the business of the state.

By trying to make the case for same-sex marriage, proponents wind up undercutting the case for the state’s involvement in marriage at all.

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11 responses to “Same-sex Marriage’s Unintended Case Against Marriage”

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  2. Robert Struble, Jr. Avatar

    I used to feel pity for people who had fallen into the pit of sexual perversion. But events have changed that. Now my patriotism leads me to regard Judge Vaughn Walker and his ilk as enemies more sinister and menacing than Al-Quada or Communist China.

  3. Kathryn Avatar
    Kathryn

    I have come to feel the Communinists, Islam extremists, and people like Walker (and other Left-ists) as simply two sides of the same totalitarian coin–all against woman and children and the family.

  4. bambushka Avatar
    bambushka

    The devil is in the details. For sure.

  5. GaryT Avatar
    GaryT

    If marriage is a private relationship between two people, then it should be legally recognized merely by a private contract set up between the two parties. The USA leaves ample room for two parties to set up whatever contractual relationship they want, including joint ownership of property, power of attorney, inheritance, etc. as well as terms and conditions to terminate the contract. All of this can already be easily done today. There is no legal need to do anything different.

    Except that marriage is a PUBLIC relationship that has benefits for society at large that expand beyond the benefits between the two parties. The primary benefit of course being the ongoing existence of society itself.

  6. joeshmoe86 Avatar
    joeshmoe86

    Even when I was Catholic, I realized that some of the fundamental Catholic beliefs about society were not shared whatsoever by the culture at large, or even by fellow Christian denominations. Marriage as a procreative act was one of those fundamental, but unshared, beliefs. It’s just one of those “in the world but not of the world” kind of things. All of my Protestant friends laughed when I clarified the Catholic stance on marriage and procreation.

    I mention this because it seems from this article that the lack of procreative ability within homosexual marriages is the crux, the main sticking point against such marriages. The fact is that, if Catholics are bemoaning this point now, then they’ve had their heads stuck in the sand for the last 50+ years at least. Procreation has never been a REQUIREMENT in marriage, in the US anyways, and to suggest that the American public should suddenly become aware of this requirement and stick to it is pretty absurd. Not that procreation isn’t a logical consequence of heterosexual marriage, but it never has been and never will be a requirement. And since the idea that procreation has been a requirement in heterosexual marriages seems to be one of the foundations for opposition to homosexual marriage, then at least that pillar of opposition falls down.

    There’s one other thing in this article that crops up a lot in arguments against homosexual marriage. It goes something like “Well if we stop defining marriage as only between a man and a woman, then ANYTHING can happen! People could be polygamous, marry trees, and all the like, ruining marriage completely!” You know what, to a very far extreme, these are valid points. You COULD ask these questions, but:

    1) Just because allowing homosexual marriage begs more questions about how marriage will be defined afterwards, it doesn’t mean that homosexual marriage is wrong. Yes, this changes things for society at large, but the Catholic definition stays the same. Yes, you can worry about how much farther way from Catholic belief things will get, but that doesn’t effect the matter of whether or not it’s a civil right. Catholics believe it’s wrong in the first place and that it’s only going to get MORE wrong. They’re perfectly entitled to that, but it has no relevance to the issue. It’s like saying “Sir! We can’t free the slaves! If all races are equal, then all workers might be equal, and we might have to give them decent hours, livable wages, and all that other junk! It just begs too much!” If you thought slavery was right, then you probably wouldn’t have supported living wages, hours, etc etc, but bringing those issues up during a conversation about slavery is, at that moment in time, totally irrelevant to the subject of slavery itself.

    2) Even though issues like polygamy and marrying inanimate objects and such does crop up, hardly anyone on either side of the homosexual marriage debate honestly believes that it will ever come up. And if it does, we can tackle it when we get there.

    Best,

    JoeShmoe

  7. zzmike Avatar
    zzmike

    Mr Brumley makes the “rights” case elegantly at the start. Another way of putting it is that everyone has exactly the same right: the right to marry someone of the opposite sex who’ll put up with him.

    The homosexual activists apparently want to take on more rights than the rest of us.

    I had not thought of the unquestioned restrictions: “a five-year old, for instance, or an insane person. Nor can a person marry someone who is already married to someone else, or otherwise marry more than one person at a time.” Add to those the restriction against consanguineous marriage – something that proved unfortunate for the royal houses of Europe in the 17th & 18th Centuries.

    If the same-sex ban should fall, why then not the others? (I recognize the “slippery slope” argument, but still feel the question is valid.)

    As for marriage, it has been essentially the same for 10,000 years of human history – and most likely long before that, in the dim ages of antiquity (though the rituals were likely somewhat less civilized).

    Even the variants – such as polygamy – were not there so the wives could cuddle.

  8. wash212 Avatar
    wash212

    “Procreation has never been a REQUIREMENT in marriage, in the US anyways, and to suggest that the American public should suddenly become aware of this requirement and stick to it is pretty absurd.”

    That is a strawman argument. Mr. Brumley’s argument was that there are civil interests involved when a couple enters a relationship that, under normal circumstances, results in new people coming into being; hence the state has an interest in recognizing and legally protecting that kind of union. Remove the possibility of procreation, why should the state be involved at all? Mr. Brumley never stated that procreation is required in an absolute sense.

    “Even though issues like polygamy and marrying inanimate objects and such does crop up, hardly anyone on either side of the homosexual marriage debate honestly believes that it will ever come up.”

    That tells us nothing about whether or not it will come up. If you admit that polygamy etc. are undesirable, why set a precedent that allows for the possibility? Imagine some campers saying, “Leaving our leftover food on the ground while we go to sleep may attract bears, but we’ll tackle that when they show up.”

  9. brianm Avatar
    brianm

    The author of this article does not understand the nature of “rights” in the United States. The state does not start out with absolute control and then hand out rights whenever really good reasons are made for having them. The individual starts with all of the rights, and the state must make a very good argument in order to take them away.

    In this case the state (really, the proponents of prop8 ) did not demonstrate adequate reason for restricting those of the same-sex to marry. Read the opinion to see why.

    In cases such as “a five year old” or even an animal, the state does have good reasons to restrict the rights of individuals to marry (neither of those above can reasonably consent to such a union).

    So to compare homosexual marriages to pedophilia or bestiality is misguided/misleading.

  10. Mary Kochan Avatar

    Where do the rights come from for the individuals, brianm.

    Hint: Check the Declaration of Independence.

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