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McCain vs. Limbaugh

You can tell a lot about how the news media feel about conservatives by watching how they talk about Rush Limbaugh. They want his influence curbed. They pine for the day his career hits the skids. They're constantly looking for a moment where they can declare that conservatives no longer have – that Rush Limbaugh no longer has — the Grand Old Party in a menacing trance. They don't want Republican candidates seeking a Limbaugh endorsement.

They think they found that moment on January 19.

When McCain won the South Carolina primary, The Washington Post sharply declared the next day that he had "defused conservative attacks, from Rush Limbaugh to Tom DeLay." CNN's Carol Costello sounded boastful a few days later: "Conservative radio talkers bragged their influence helped put George W. Bush in office. How times have changed. Now leading many Republican polls — John McCain. And those same talkers aren't bragging anymore. Voters have betrayed them, despite what's playing on Rush Limbaugh's show."

No one chortled more loudly than that expert on conservatism, former NBC anchorman Tom Brokaw. He proclaimed on "Meet the Press" that the voters of America are now rejecting "dogma," and they are a "nomadic herd" hungering for "solutions" rather than ideology.

Translation? The Reagan ideology is finished (thank God); the conservative movement is gone (good riddance); and happy days are here again, with Republicans embracing Democratic policy prescriptions instead (as they should).

Brokaw doesn't want Republicans to have any troublesome litmus tests to decide which candidate is most conservative, not only because moderates like McCain will fail the test, but because it leads Republicans to pitch campaign promises at that conservative base that the media would like to believe is irrelevant.

"I was listening to Rush Limbaugh for an hour yesterday, who is determined to not have this campaign, as he put it, ‘redefine' conservatism," proclaimed Brokaw. "And one of the dittoheads, one of his followers, called and said, ‘Well, help me out here. What do I think now about Pat Buchanan and Newt Gingrich?' And it's one of the few times I've ever heard Rush Limbaugh kind of temporarily at a loss for words. And he ended up saying that they're not true conservatives. And that debate is not going to help the Republican Party, if they if they get bogged down in that."

It's funny that Brokaw doesn't think Rush should ever pause before offering a thought. I'm skeptical that Brokaw regularly tunes in to the Limbaugh Institute for Advanced Conservative Studies. I'd take his "I've never heard Rush pause" talk with a cave full of salt. I doubt Brokaw has the intestinal fortitude to listen to Rush for a full hour.

But Rush explained the exchange in different words. He paused before listing where Buchanan and Gingrich have not been consistently conservative because it's not easy to call out people who've "been profoundly instrumental in shaping the views of a lot of people in conservatism, and they both, from issue here to issue there, have, in my terms, wandered off the reservation. So I get somebody calling saying, ‘Well, what do you think about these guys?' It's tough to have to say these things. I know both these guys and I like them both."

He wasn't, as Brokaw claimed, saying they weren't true conservatives. He was stating that not every idea they support is conservative. He said Buchanan wasn't really a free-market candidate for president in 1992, and that Gingrich is too willing to get government involved in regulating away "climate change."

Given the intellectual vacuum of the GOP leadership, somebody needs to lead conservatives to analyze the candidate who is truest to their creed. Many talk-radio hosts are taking up that task. So why the hostility toward Rush in particular? Yes, he's the biggest and most influential. But Rush is also uniquely powerful in keeping conservatives from demoralization – a key objective of the liberal media. Conservatives are understandably glum about their erstwhile champions in Washington, so ingloriously surrendering to liberal pressures. The left would like nothing more than to keep conservatives glum. A McCain nomination would go a long way to making conservatives want to stay home and stew on Election Day.

Tom Brokaw offering advice to Republicans about how to win elections is like Rush Limbaugh offering advice to the network anchors about how to stop the bleeding of their ever-declining ratings. It's no doubt heard by the recipient of the unsolicited advice as just so much noise from someone who doesn't really wish you smashing success.

The only difference is this: Brokaw's advice for the Republican Party is terrible. Limbaugh's advice for the networks – try a balanced newscast instead of "drive-by" partisan target practice — would actually be helpful advice. But they'll never accept it.

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    I for one an happy to see McCain do well.  Extreme agendas scare me.  I do not want to be lead by extremists any more.  I want to be lead by a God fearing and loving person.  Two sides of an issue isn't the only way an issue can be seen.  A more moderate view allows for discussion and forward progress.

    Rush scares the heck out of me.

    GK – God is good!

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    I would venture that John the Baptist would do more than scare the heck out of us if he were to appear today. Given that Limbaugh is no St. John and he (the Baptist) would be locked away in a mental intuition.

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    GK:

    What is “moderate.” Is it not equal to “lukewarm?”

    I would rather have someone extreme from either end of the spectrum, because you know where he stands (within certain boundries; no Hitler on the right or Stalin on the Left). To be clear, this does not mean that I’d vote for the extreme Leftie over the moderate Rightie if the moderate was more “Catholic” in thought, only that I’d prefer the truly convicted because he makes either a great banner-carrier, or a better target.

    To me, extremeism means that one is clear in his conviction, his goals are likely to be ideals outside of himself, and there are certain issues on which he is unavailable for compromise.

    Barry Goldwater said, “Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, moderation in the pursuit of justice is no virtue.” Martin Luther King said, “I have been greatlly disappointed with the Moderates.” While I’ve been greatly disappointed in the current administration, it has not been from it’s extremeism, but from its failure to remain so.

    In Christ,

    Michael

    “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried”
    – GK Chesterton
    “The poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.” – also GKC

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    Limbaugh said something that resonated with me the other day.  He said he is not a Republican or Democrat.  He is part of a Conservative Movement. I am part of that Conservative Movement (I believe it is consistent with my Catholic Faith).  No Republican can count on my vote just because they're a Republican.

    This vision of myself is liberating because no candidate, read John McCain, can just take my vote for granted.  Come Nov I will vote for the best Social, Fiscal, Constitutional (defense, states rights, court appt) Conservative candidate.  Rush helped me figure out that this perspective is not "throwing away" my vote.

    I appreciate Rush et al helping me sort through issues that I don't have time to investigate.  On the other hand I listen to NPR too…I don't live in a vacuum.   

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    Isn't embracing McCain embracing extreme agendas?  He supported limiting free speech with McCain-Feingold.  He supported amnesty with McCain-Kennedy.  He opposed President Bush's tax cuts in 2001 and 2003 and has suggested that he might oppose extending these tax cuts which would result in a tax increase.  He's supported Federal funding of embryonic stem cell research.  Is the rumor true that he considered abandoning the GOP to potentially gain a chairmanship as Senator Jeffords did when the Democrats initially gained control of the Senate?  Wasn't it McCain who stated to a group of attorneys that he felt Samuel Alito was too conservative (check out Robert Novak's article on this).? Aren't all of these extreme actions for someone who claims to be the "true" conservative?  You can call him a moderate, but I think that's being generous.

    McCain scares the heck out of me!

    God Bless us all.

    Scott in Iowa

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    They ALL scare the dickens out of me. I have not heard any consistently honest positions. Is there anyone out there who actually believes that life begins at conception and ends with natural death. They all either deny this or equivocate it to death with their posturing for votes. I have been forced into a single position decider by this crop of candidates. If you are unwilling to grant the "right to life", how can you be expected to honor any freedom. Hillary Clinton is at least straightforward enough to make it clear that if you do not agree with her, when she is president, she will force you to come around as there will only be one point of view accepted.

    Dick

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    CE is not doing endorsements because we are a non-profit, but I personally am going to the courthouse today to early vote for Huckabee. I believe he is the most pro-life viable (even if barely so) candidate out there. He is predicted to take my state of Georgia. Does he lack certian "conservative" cred. Sure. But I am voting for the babies. Period.

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    So ok for now. But what do we do when McCain wins the GOP nomination and there is NO viable candidate who will stand up for the babies?
    I’ve heard one Catholic commentator say that we just need to go for the person who most closely represents the “next tier” of Catholic teaching on positions.
    I’ve also heard another who says this may be the time to make a statement by voting for someone who is clearly uncompromisingly prolife, without thought of their chances of winning. Some say this is wasting one’s vote, but this commentator says that the vote sends the message that we will not support candidates who are not prolife. He says that we withstood 4 years of Jimmy Carter, and 8 years of Bill Clinton, so we can withstand 4 – 8 years of Hill/Bama, and that it is worth it to send the message.
    Hmmmm…….

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    I will be paying attention to the wise women out there, so voice your choice as mkochan did. This is the first time that I'm undecided. The politicians just reflect the landscape that's out there. But there are also those of us who appreciate Rush and others who give us balance in the media. I got him on right now.

    Sure we're a minority but we're the ones who lap water from the stream on one knee and with one hand. We fight in Gideon's army because one of us is worth ten of the others.

    The moderates remind me of tofu.

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    RWW:

    There is a discussion going on about just what you are saying in Is it a mortal sin to vote, here on CE.

    Archbishop Burke’s 2004 Treatment of the subject addresses, very completely, the issues.

    In Christ,
    Michael

    “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried”
    – GK Chesterton
    “The poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.” – also GKC

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    "no Hitler on the right or Stalin on the Left"

    Hitler was a socialist -which is a category on the left. So was a young Mussolini, who was widely known as a leftist on the world stage.

    And let us listen to Hitler himself on the matter:

    "There is more that binds us to Bolshevism than separates us from it. There is, above all, genuine, revolutionary feeling, which is alive everywhere in Russia except where there are Jewish Marxists. I have always made allowance for this circumstance, and given orders that former Communists are to be admitted to the party at once. The petit bourgeois Social-Democrat and the trade-union boss will never make a National Socialist, but the Communists always will."

    Another quote:

    "Of what importance is all that, if I range men firmly within a discipline they cannot escape? Let them own land or factories as much as they please. The decisive factor is that the State, through the Party, is supreme over them regardless of whether they are owners or workers. All that is unessential; our socialism goes far deeper. It establishes a relationship of the individual to the State, the national community. Why need we trouble to socialize banks and factories? We socialize human beings."  

     

    The second quote sounds exactly like leftists of today.

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    Lazar:

    Point well-made and taken. I’m not an Hitler expert though, he’s usually been grouped with the far-right in the reading I’ve done.

    I believe, not to get off track, that my point regarding the super-extremes on the political continuum remains valid since both subordinate man to an ideology; it is that extreme which I would shun.

    In Christ,
    Michael

    “The Christian ideal has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and left untried”
    – GK Chesterton
    “The poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese.” – also GKC

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    Goral:

    how's that wedding planning going? All the "wise women" in your household are probably focused more on May than November. (A wise choice, indeed).

    I'm voting my Catholic, Conservative conscience this year even if it means I'm not voting Republican. I'm nobody's stooge. If that means "Billary" or Barrack Hussein wins then so be it. Our country will get what they say they want, even if innocents suffer. Perhaps after 8 years of secular socialism Ronald Reagan will rise from the ashes….Actually, I'll be a well seasoned 50 something, with no nursing babies, I hope…I'll run!

    Well, the chocolate chip cookies are buzzing and I've got to pick up kids from violin in 8 minutes.  See, that proves I'm a presidential multitasker (the baby is nursing, I'm typing, I'm about to yell "load up: the car, the dryer, the dishwasher, my mouth with warm cookies…)

    6 minutes now till violin ends…bye 

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    I'd vote for you!

    It is so sad that Catholics could put a pro-life candidate into this race on Tuesday and they could elect him November, but they won't — and judgement begins with the House Of God.

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    goral, you wrote,

    I will be paying attention to the wise women out there, so voice your choice as mkochan did.

    I don't claim to be a wise woman.  However, I'll voice my thoughts as well.  I don't like a single one of them.  Period.

    Now, my cynical side kicks in and says "my vote really doesn't count no matter how I look at it" because I'm here in the deep blue state of Massachusetts.  No wonder I hate politics.

    We vote Tuesday.  I most likely will vote for Huckabee because he is the only one left (honestly, I don't count Paul) that I feel answers straight and is authentic.  So when he says he is pro-life, I can believe it.  And I cannot discount how much he may be guided by the One that gives authority to begin with.  Even if he is not Catholic, at least I can picture him praying.  I'm not saying the others don't.  They just make darn sure that it wouldn't be TOO obvious.  So if he is off one way or another (and which of us have truly the BEST answers for EVERY issue?), I think he is the one that would most likely allow himself to be guided by the One who matters most.

    Now, given I'm 99.9% certain he will not be the candidate in Nov.,  I have yet to decide what to do.  Again, the bright blue state of Massachusetts really makes it a given that what I do doesn't really matter.  I know I won't vote for either of the democratic party options this time around.  So whether or not I actually vote or abstain will not send a message one way or another. 

    I can say, like elkabrikir above, I am neither a democrat or a republican. 

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    The only two candidates left in the race that come close to the Bishops voting guide are Alan Keyes and Ron Paul. Huckabee seems to on the surface but has a history of not adhering to true conservative principles. He likes to raise taxes, increase government and was very soft on illegal immigration. His pro life stand like Bush's rings hollow. Keyes and Paul on the other hand have a solid history of  supporting life.  They are, for the most part, true conservatives although Keyes has a tendency towards intervention in world affairs that is not considered traditional conservatism.

    Both of them have well reasoned thought out positions that inspire confidence once one takes the time to do a little reading. Both have websites with lots of resources.

    If McCain makes one nervous I would strongly suggest suporting someone who doesn't and disregard the electability nonsense.  

     

    I too am from Massachusettes but will vote and write in my candidate when the time comes if needed. To me its like doing the right thing even if no one is watching. One needs to do it because it is THE only option. Freedom is the ability to chose what is good and true not what is expedient.

    Mankind will not have peace until it turns with trust to God's Mercy. Kent C. Bois

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    I didn't see anything in the bishops voting guide regarding taxes, government size or hardness/softness on illegal immigration.  I do not consider Keyes and Paul to be viable (something the bishops did discuss). 

    Paul is too far out of reality because he has yet to mention ANY specifics about how to get from point A (where we are now) to point B (where we ought to be).  It's as if he thinks "If you do the right thing, everything will work itself out."  Not to mention, he has said that if the legality of abortion was solely up to the states, and some states voted to legalize it, he would not try to do anything to reverse that.  We're back to the pre-Civil War situation of "let the south do what they want" attitude.

    If Keyes were viable (or actually on the ballot), I'd vote for him.  I know write-ins are an option, but I don't consider that the lesser-of-evils is evil enough that a write-in is a NECESSARY and ONLY option.

     

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    My feelings exactly, Ipioch – "I don't like a single one of them. Period." I'm blue to the south of you. I don't know if Dodd ever came back from Iowa.

    Saying: "I am neither a democrat or a republican." or elkabrikir's admittance – "On the other hand I listen to NPR too…" is peculiar wisdom to me. For a guy it's like drinking beer from one hand and sweet wine from the other. But that's our shortcoming. That's why I pay attention to you multi-faceted ladies.

    Maybe the Republican ticket will balance off with a good conservative VP. The choice this yr. is a broken tooth or an ankle out of joint. Tofu or white chocolate – tasteless or sickly-sweat.

    In this household my wife has to vote the way I do. So how am I voting? She hasn't told me yet!

    The wedding, elkabrikir is all locked in, the deposits are in and pulling out now would be as disastrous as pulling out of Iraq. Maybe God gave us awful politics this yr. to direct our minds toward our families.

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    Don't tell the bishops that everything in their voting guide points to Keyes or they'll amend it.

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    Ipioch,

    regardless of what the bishops say or don't say about taxes, government size, etc…I still will consider them very important issues.  Of course they are secondary to the LIfe issues.  However, as an American I believe I have a duty to vote in accordance to the vision of the Founding Fathers, the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence.  Starting with the latter document's:  Life, Liberty, and Pursuit of Happiness doctrines, LIfe is obvious for us as Catholics.  The tax issue has a lot to do with Pursuit of Happiness.  Also, illegal border crossing is an important issue, because on the the main functions of government is to "provide for the common defense".  Therefore, that is a key issue for me too.  The doctrine of Federalism plays a role in my vote also.  I won't vote for any candidate who wants a monolithic central government.

     

    I am an American citizen.  I have a duty to pass down to my children the country I inherited.  If I vote for some candidates, I believe they won't have the freedom to practice their Catholic faith which is their most important inheritance.  The issues which the bishops don't mention DO play a role in fulfilling the vision of America as promulgated by the Founding Fathers, therefore, it is a non issue to me that the bishops, a religious group with no authority as a body, say nothing about certain policies of a legal, secular Nation-State with a Constitution and Declaration founded on moral principles.

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    Actually, Goral, I listen to NPR for two reasons:

    1.)  Know your adversary

    2.)  They pulled the best April Fool's joke in the history of man on me several years ago.  It had to do with "exploding maple trees".  I was sold hook, line, and sinker…In fact, I'm permanently bonded to a friend over the matter…."Samoans making imitation maple syrup from cast off maple furniture" means something to the two of us. Unfortunately, he blew my belief in the veracity of the story higher than any exlploding maple tree..I'll forever love him for the laugh!

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    Probably also good to consider that the next President could very well be in a position to appoint one or more Supreme Court Justices, which will determine the country’s direction for a long, long time. So much for my voting for a non-viable candidate to make a statement. Even liberal McCain could not possibly appoint any justices as far off the leftist charts as would either of the Democratic likelies, who are in fact much closer to socialist or communist than they are to Democrats.
    So if for that reason alone, it would be my duty to “hold my nose” (as McCain’s own mother said alot of Republicans would just have to do) and vote for him or whatever candidate would stand a chance of defeating the Democratic candidate.

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    Founder of Truth 'R' Us fooled by NPR? You had to have had an off day. I like a lot of The Onion parodies

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    Rush is not an extremist.  He is an insightful analytical pro-life Repulbican.  McCain is an extremist.  If you listen to Sen Santorum, you'll learn a lot more.  McCain's desire to be John Kerry's vp is also coming out today.  McCain is a nasty treacherous stabber in the back.  The Republicans are voting for Romney, it's the independents and Dems who McCain is pandering to that are voting in these primaries.

    Moderate is equal to lukewarm, and to not defending the unborn in a real way.

    I will never ever vote for someone as nasty as Huckabee or McCain.  They undercut their competition.  Did anyone hear Huckabee's snide comment about Mitt Romney not reaching political puberty until 60?  He is disgraceful . McCain lied about Romney this past weekend, when he knew it would be too late for Romney to correct the lies.

    If McCain and Huckabee can lie about their opponent, then trust me, they are lying about what they will do for the pro-life movement and for babies.

    Why aren't people more upset that there aren't pro-life Dems?

    McCain is an opportunist, as is Huckabee.  Panderer McCain was for embryonic stem cell research.  That's how you know a real pro-lifer.

    McCain is not only a lib, he designed the McCain Feingold bill to get himself elected.  And prevent others from achieving it.  He is no different from a despot or tyrant in another country.

    Paul has been heavily involved in pork.  Check out wnd.com and other sites.

    Keyes is nice in some ways, but why can't he work to make himself a serious candidate?  He reminds me too much of Jesse Jackson when he does certain things.

    Clinton is not honest in anyway.  read wnd.com to see joe farah's experience with her truly evil nature.

    Since I can't trust the Bishop's guide to movies, why should I trust their voting guide?

    As long as you are not deliberately choosing a pro-abort, you are free to take other things into consideration.

    You should take into consideration that the pro-abort media want McCain and Huckabee to do well, and want Romney not to.

    And by the way, why do posts have to have all these repeated signatures at the end? 

    I am still trying to understand all these pro-lifers who say they will vote their conscience 'even if innocents suffer' – isn't the point to avoid that?

    For everyone who 'let' Bill Clinton get elected, shame on you.  For everyone who helped Nancy Pelosi become Speaker of the House by staying home, shame on you.  There should be a special place for people who think it is wisdom to allow evil-doers into office for any amount of time.

    It's interesting also that so many people are taking this opportunity to bash and chat, while the real point of the article was the drive by media, and its attack on Rush.  There's a reason folks.  Before Rush, and I know this, the media had a heyday with its attacks on conservatives.  it's rush's analysis that saves us.

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    So far the comments came in for Huckabee and Romney. Not surprising, they're both better than McCain. Deirdrew, what do you see in Romney that Ipioch doesn't? He was her governor.

    Rush is too big for the snipers with the BB guns. He has used his talents well.

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    Keyes is not "nice" like Aslan is not "tame".  Or in more common terms, he's a real man – with a backbone.  "Why can't he work…"!!!???, working he IS doing, and not only working, he is FIGHTING for this country's future.  We are, after all, the Church Militant.  It is up to US to WORK and MAKE Keyes a "viable" candidate.  We are too used to some "establishment" (GOP) delivering us a candidate, someone else paying all the bills, putting up all the signs and getting made a fool of sometimes for what we believe in and we just sit back and armchair quarterback.  Some folks, a heck of a lot more courageous than me, must have begged Keyes to run (and he is on the ballot in the primaries of your state if some poor souls worked hard enough to put him there).  He is the best man out there, the best qualified AND THE ONLY REPUBLICAN CANDIDATE WHO CAN ACTUALLY BEAT O'BAMA OR MS. CLINTON.  I see the other half-n-half fence sitters as doing worse than a Dole-Kemp ticket.  FYI – Keyes as a debater is a seasoned veteran, the media is scared to death of him.

    Let's not talk of quitting before we have BEGUN to fight.  It is not time to talk of having to pick a lesser evil or of someone who "looks good but doesn't have a chance".  WE need to give him that chance.  Big Money and Big Media is not going to do it for us. The strength of this nation lies in it's courageous individuals fighting for what they believe in.  We can't just think the war is off in Iraq and we can't just say to the soldiers returning "sorry guys, we did nothing while you risked your necks for us".  "Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country."  If we don't fight now, and if not successful (God forbid) fight again in four years, we won't have that family to worry about – international UN laws will have us not in families but villages.  We may get a chance though to be that martyr we always admired.

    So, here's the challenge, go to alankeyes.com , see his plan for relying on the good people of this country and "do what you can, not what you can't" to give Keyes that "chance" to be "viable".  But pray first and let's pray for each other.  I'm just as scared as the next guy to put my faith and works "on the street" but if I don't at least try I won't be able to look at my children in the eye knowing that "Daddy didn't do a thing to stand up and be counted and fight for his Faith and country".  We are not called to be successful but to be faithful to the Truth.

    God save us!  Thank you for giving us a mind a heart and a will to serve you!  Please make our heart unto like your Sacred Heart and your Mother's Immaculate Heart!  "Let not our enemies triumph over us!"

    God Bless all of our efforts.  St. Paul, evangelist like none other, Pray for us!

    Randal Caffery

    Lache pas la patate! (Don't give up!)

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    Sorry about link.  Maybe this will work, if not just "google".

    http://www.alankeyes.com/

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    I've always liked Keyes. He's not going to get the nomination. He'd be a great VP to balance out the uninspiring nominee. Maybe that would be a good strategy to salvage the ticket.

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    elkabrikir, I am in full agreement with you.

    My comment regarding what the bishops did NOT say about such topics was actually a response to:

    The only two candidates left in the race that come close to the Bishops voting guide are Alan Keyes and Ron Paul. Huckabee seems to on the surface but has a history of not adhering to true conservative principles. He likes to raise taxes, increase government and was very soft on illegal immigration.

    To me, this indirectly asserted that the bishops voting guide had automatically ruled out Huckabee by also addressing taxes, increased government and illegal immigration.  It had not.  I take great exception to anyone that wants to try to put forward that any one candidate or any one party is the Catholic Choice or the ordained Catholic option

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    ipioch,

    sorry if it sounded like I was taking a "tone", I wasn't.  Also, I ALWAYS like people who agree with me…(tee! hee!)

    RE Keyes:  He spoke at a pro life banquet here about 4 years ago.  My!  Oh My!  How eloquent!  How intelligent!  He was one of the best speakers EVER at this banquet.  (we've had Jennifer O'Neal, Fr Pavone, Judge Napolitano, and other terrific speakers.)  He was probably the best.  He just doesn't seem political enough to be a president.  He's honest and straight forward.  Not coy or manipulative.  Come to think of it, I retract my bid for president.  I'm too honest…too me. 

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    There is some angst out there.  McCain is not a pro-choicer.  He may not be Limbaugh's choice but that doesn't bother me.

    Prayers are needed now and over the next year as we vote for the next president.

    GK – God is good!

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    I'm disappointed that people I thought were for morality and the sacredness of life are really being concerned about money. anyway I think some of the financial fears are being fanned into flame, and fears about Huckabee are being pushed by media and wall street because they don't own him.  Read the records of the candidates. 

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